Public displays of affection are against the rules at Sky View Middle School in Bend, and 14-year-old Cazz Altomare found that out the hard way. She got detention earlier this year after hugging her boyfriend in the hallway as he headed to lunch and she went to gym class.
In Douglas County, middle school PDA rules range from hand-holding only to no-touch policies. "We work hard at a no-touch policy," said Doug Freeman, principal of Joseph Lane Middle School in Roseburg. "We also work with the kids, so they understand our reasons for that," he said.Freeman said earlier this year the school dealt with a similar issue when a student was hugged by several friends in the school building. However, school staff learned that the student had lost a family member and the hugs came as emotional support.
Tim Wilson, principal of John C. Fremont Middle School in Roseburg, said PDA between boys and girls doesn't happen very often. The school does not allow hugging, kissing and holding hands.
In Bend, Altomare's mother, Leslee Swanson was infuriated by the punishment. "I'm trying to understand what's wrong with a hug," said Swanson, 42. But administrators said such policies are standard-issue at middle schools across the country.
"Really, all we're trying to do is create an environment that's focused on learning, and learning proper manners is part of that," said Dave Haack, the principal of Cascade Middle School, also in Bend. "This is not us being the romance police." Students only end up with detention after repeated warnings, he said.
Wilson said at Fremont, the staff also takes into consideration the situation and the context of PDAs. The students are always warned first, he said. "The majority of the kids know what their moral values are," he said. When a situation arises, the staff uses discretion and mutual respect to deal with the students. "There's no need to blow it out of proportion," Wilson said.
At the Glide Middle School, the rules are strict, and a no-touch policy is imperative. The Sutherlin Middle School carries a hand-hold only policy. "The students do understand the guidelines," said Sutherlin's Principal, Steve Perkins.
Schools need to define and actively teach what they do want to see in student behavior, said Rob Horner, a University of Oregon professor who works with schools across the nation on "building social culture that supports effective learning."
"To say 'no hugging' really blows it," Horner said. "That's exactly the sort of trap that, as soon as you say that, what is the first thing everyone is going to want to do?"
At home after school on a recent afternoon, Cazz, the Sky View student, described the no-hug rule as "dumb." "Hugging is like a sign of affection," she said. Her mother has told her that if she likes Sky View and wants to stay at the school, she'll have to abide by the rules. But Swanson, the mother, said she wonders if a hugging ban would fly in a more metropolitan place. For her, this is a politically charged issue. "The more people blindly accept these fundamental rights being taken away from them, the easier it becomes for them to be taken away," Swanson said.
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13 comments:
why can't we hug any body at school???
PDA is an incredibly ridiculous concept. Does anyone truly believe kids showing affection is a crime? As long as it's not obstructing the process of learning, there is no issue. I am 14, and attend a middle school in Michigan, and at this point it's almost a dictatorship, a simple kiss got me sent out of school, suspended, for 3 days. Considering since I have been dating this girl my grades have dramatically improved, I have stopped drugs altogether and am now happier than ever, I truly believe trying to pull me away from her (This ranges from the PDA rules, to non-sensical things such as teachers personal comments and rumours among teachers) is utterly disgusting.
What is happening across the U.S. is that they are trying to control every aspect of are lives. Which by the way is socialism "all for one, and one for all." may sound familiar because it is the base for a socialistic community. One of the most popular Socialist leaders is Hitler.
I think that PDA is a really stupid rule. I don't think that it should be terminated. I think that teachers should only do some thing if it is over board like flashing people in the hall ways would be overboard. But kissing, hugging, and holding hands should be fine. It's going to happen anyway.
i think PDA is fine in school if it's not against the school rule. I hug,kiss,and hold hands with my boyfriend all the time,but we try not to get caught doing it because we know it's forbidden. all middle schools should not forbid PDA rules. it is unfair.
if someone knows a debate website about pda please blog
I'm 11 and I held my little sisters hand to show her around the school, because she was going here the next year, and i got in trouble.. how ridiculous is that? PDA rules suck
I agree with you Anonymous, great vocabulary choice. That is the "Slippery Slope" argument; basically the question becomes: "Where do you draw the line?" The Slippery Slope means that you can slide down until it becomes absurd.
I think we can agree that we don't want anyone making out at school (I'm a teacher and I won't kiss my wife at school), right? But giving a hug to a friend? Holding you sister's hand? Even holding your girlfriend's hand is seen by some to be inappropriate. That's just improperly using your authority; students are people too.
The only way these things change is for young people like you to make your opinions heard in a reasoned, articulate manner. That's why education is important; notice I said education, not school. School is a place where there are people who can help you educate yourself. Teachers don't educate, they guide (at least they should).
Keep up the good work!
i think anonymous is rite. if u really like someone why should u get in trouble at school to shwo it. u do it outside of school and othe public places y should it be any different.
I think PDA rules are taken way to far. I am for PDA on a moderate level of it.
Today in my school they announced a strict No PDA rule. Basically if you touch one person ( of the opposite or same sex)or stand/walk/ect. less than the room 3 people take up close to each other,that's an automatic 3rd offense . Meaning if ,you were to be caught standing to close to a random person, then caught hugging your best friend you could very well be kicked out of the school.
I personally feel that is not fair, nor right. Although i don't think making out in the school hall is right either.
Everyone knows moving is a hard thing to do, especially if you've been living in that same place for.. six and a half years and you know everyone there. So, today is close to the last day I'm in my city, and I was saying goodbye to a large amount of my friends. I gave a number of them hugs, some bro-hugs, and held a few hands during lunch and after class in the halls. The next thing I know, I wind up in the principals office for some PDA violation. My district is unusually competitive and I think the PDA thing is just to "help" students focus on learning or whatever it is they're trying to get people to think. Tell me, what do you learn in LUNCH, or IN THE HALLS? Absolutely nothing. So why waste time getting students in trouble for that? You tell me. It's not like it's ALL bad. As many of you have said, it does prevent students/teachers making out or whatever in the halls. Sure, I can understand that. But come on. A few hugs? What's the harm in that?
I got caught hugging my boyfriend outside the school at the end of the day and almost got detention for it. Today and tommorrow are the last days. We are so happy together and our lives have improved. Why do schools do this to us? I dont like the pda rule. Why is it all over the country? hugging and holding hands should be ok. Making out in halls just isnt right
I think its ridiculous. Ive given my school all i can give, stellar grades, great sports performance, and awesome test scores. And they repay me by cutting me off from the girl i like
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